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Episode 87 – A Tweet from Jay Duplass!

This week we cover a myriad of topics including La La Land, Tax season, getting rejected from festivals, the Boston Sci-Fi film festival, a new idea for getting Anthony Mackie in Alrik’s film, the mind game of filmmaking and a Tweet from Jay Duplass!

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Daily Struggle

Alrik talks about why La La Land didn’t live up to his expectations.

Timothy shares his film losses in 2016, his mini-freakout over the 1099-Misc form, and getting rejected from festivals. Yes, Sundance included.

We talk about the Boston Sci-Fi film festival where The Spirit Machine will make it’s world premiere:

Fan Fueled Campaign

Marc Madrigal writes Alrik with an idea for getting Anthony Mackie in his film:

What if you made an “Anthony Mackie for The Alternate” Facebook page? You could throw out some catchy images explaining why he is perfect for the project. Put up a link to the script. Ask your friends to like the page.

Once you have 50-100 likes, share the Facebook page on Anthony Mackie fan sites, Marvel universe subreddits, etc. Make it clear that the goal is to get the script to Anthony Mackie.

I don’t know. Sometimes people are willing to help with crazy ideas like this. What do you think?

This reminds Timothy of the fan fueled Twitter campaign to get Donald Glover in Spiderman:

Or his co-workers “Win a Date with Lady Sovereign” stunt:

The Mind Game of Filmmaking

After meeting with a producer, Alrik shares his newfound enthusiasm for “The Alternate” and we discuss how much of being a filmmaker is mental. That reminds Timothy of a tweet he got from Jay Duplass.

A Tweet From Jay Duplass!

From ‏@jayduplass

@simsjamie @TimothyPlain @cullnane make great shit guys, repeatedly, and no one can deny you. the obstacle is not on the outside.

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  • I’ll kick the comments off with a link to Damian Chazelle defending his choices in La La Land including why he cast non-dancing actors and didn’t go full out MGM with it. I think he must have heard Alrik on Making Movies is Hard and wanted to respond. This is his interview on The Business. It’s great. Check it out:

    • I am in the total minority, but just don’t get the LaLaLand hype. Had nothing to do with the non-dancing actors. I rarely publicly critique a movie and I enjoy all genres and films. I found the story so basic and weak. Their is very little conflict in the film. Their is really only one scene of conflict and it’s weak as heck. They have this relationship supposedly but sounds like they never discuss anything. They breakup over the fact that he is doing great, but not 100% what he wants to do. Like almost everyone in the world!? He’s lucky to make a good living doing an art. Sure it’s not 100% what he wants to do, but it’s damn close. Emma Stones’ character is supposed to be ‘struggling’ I guess. She has a solo show of her own and people actually came to the show. Not 100s but some. You have to play to the people that come, not the ones who don’t. I found myself just disagreeing with the characters and what their struggles were.

      • I feel the opposite about the story. I feel like it’s deep and layered and I completely relate to the struggles of these artists as they decide what success looks like. It reminds me of being in college where you have hopes and dreams about the future that are sometime unrealistic and then at some point, you’re forced to face the real world. Whether that means putting your dreams on hold to be a working artist, getting paid, but not really ending up where you want to be (that’s me, by the way) or making your art on your own terms only to find out you that no one cares. When Emma Stone says “maybe I’m not good enough” I was bawling. Yes! I relate. I feel that all the time. It sounds to me like you’ve come to terms with the artist’s struggle and I’m really jealous you have because I have not. The central debate of La La Land is something that’s on my mind almost everyday and so the movie hit a nerve with me. I was completely engaged and the love story, the dream story, the ideas of jazz and old Hollywood, it all worked for me many times over. I went and saw it twice and loved it both times. I wish you saw what I saw, because what I saw was a really great. What about the other Oscar contenders. What’s your favorite? We had a lot of great movies this season. Lion was fantastic and I liked Manchester by the Sea, and Arrival is an interesting film. Moonlight is special in many ways. Who do you hope wins the Oscar?

        • Thanks Tim for these comments. Maybe I am just old now haha. I don’t really have a favourite, as I have only seen LaLaLand from the nominated. I have heard good things about Moonlight and Manchester, so I will probably check those out soon. I don’t know. The artists struggle is very real, with me as well. I just recently for the first time got a regular gig in video editing. I love film. I would kill to make movies for a living, which right at this moment for me is very much like Goslings’ character and it seems like you as well. It’s a 99% dream job. I will always make movies of my own though. Will people care? Who knows. What I have come to accept is that the whole industry really doesn’t owe anyone anything. The BEST filmmakers don’t necessarily get to make movies. It’s the ones who just F’n do it. I work as an editor for a B movie director. Is he the best filmmaker? No way. He would say that himself. Does he hustle and make shit happen? Absolutely. You have mad skills Tim. I have seen your stuff as well as Alrik’s and you guys are super talented. Just go out and make stuff. I hear you guys talk about budgets of 100k,etc. I would love to see you guys make something for 1K. 500 bucks. Might sound silly, but it can be done. Maybe a little harder in California, but I am not just going to wait around for someone to say I am good enough. Not saying you guys are waiting around though:) I don’t know if you two have mentioned before, but have you seen the “calvary is not coming” speech by Mark Duplass?

          Anyways, how did this ramble start? What the hell am I talking about? Oh ya. LaLaLand. haha.
          Keep doing your thing guys. I really dig the podcast.

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