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Episode 32 – Do It All Yourself? Or Find the Money and Hire a Crew?

We’ve had a  busy start to 2016. This week we catch up on what we’ve been working on and tackle a short topic: Should we just go out and make our first feature DIY style, in any way possible, for as cheaply as possible, or wait for funding so we can hire a crew, name actors and get a higher production value?

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The Daily Struggle

  • Alrik’s shooting a new short called “The Rage”
“The Rage” – Alrik’s latest short film
  • Alrik talks about Directing some pieces for an actress’ reel
  • Alrik talks about two feature film projects on the horizon and choosing between them and wondering if they will get in the way of his own feature project “The Alternate”
  • Alrik talks about prepping for his new short film “The Rage” that he’s shooting Sunday January 24th. And gives the reasons he decided to do another short film
  • Timothy talks about his latest struggle with finishing “The Spirit Machine” and the big decisions he has to make to get it finished

Topic of the Week – Ways to Approach Shooting Our First Feature Film

Filmmaking has become increasingly accessible and you can make a movie with very little equipment/crew. What is the best way to approach your first feature? Run out with a camera and just tell your story on your own or try to raise $200k -$500k and do things the traditional indie way.

  • El Mariachi Style – grab a camera, a group of actors and just go do it DIY style for as little money as possible
  • Contemporary Indie Approach – wait for funding so you can do it right with a proper crew, name actors and higher production value
  • What approach appeals to Timothy?
  • What approach appeals to Alrik?
  • What are the pluses and minuses of working with a crew vs doing everything yourself?
  • Timothy brings up the bigger question for himself: what’s the movie that I’m passionate about that I’ll stop at nothing to bring into the world? I don’t want to just make a movie, I want to make something I believe in.

Things to Share

  • Vicious Lips and the carreer of Albert Pyun (Alrik’s Da Vinci)

  • Amy LaCour Trio – Blood & Vein

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  • Oh man, gotta shout out to Timothy on this one. This was my week to edit and while I did the editing, Timothy had to do the post and all the other stuff because I was too busy prepping/shooting The Rage. So thank you Timothy and sorry to all of you, this episode is a little more sloppy than normal and that’s my bad! Let us know what you think about how you want to make your movies, on your own or with a nice sized crew?

  • Wellington Chinsee

    I’ve also experienced a similar type of stress and heartache that Timothy has from his situation in India. I have a vfx friend in Ukraine who’s been working on a short film with me for the last few years. Last year’s unrest in the country created a slew of communication problems between us. The government mandated a military draft to cope with the fight against the rebellion and went door to door collecting all able males. My friend did not believe in the war so he hid in his apartment, pretending not to be home while the soldiers were banging on each apartment. At one point he left his home and floated around the city trying to avoid them. If he got caught, he might of been thrown in jail for avoiding the draft. I remember one point he was trying to find wifi behind a store to email me to let me know he was ok. We spent one year building the digital environments and another year compositing them for the film and all of it was on his computer. So that would have set us back a long way if anything had happened to him. Long story short, it turned out ok, he’s safe, and we’re back on the grind! I know exactly how you’re feeling right now, Timothy. Think of this as a silver lining. Every obstacle or failure while making your film is just another way that the universe is telling you how to creatively make your film better. It’s happened to me multiple times and I would never take back all the times I’ve fucked up because it made our film better. Don’t give up and get it done. And like James Cameron would say, “everything after that you’re just negotiating your budget and your fee.”

    • Thank you so much for sharing your story. I needed to hear this. I’m glad your friend is okay. Wheww. I still haven’t heard from my guy in India. I did a bunch of searches for his name, checked his Facebook profile, and I still don’t have any answers. It’s frightening.

      • Wellington Chinsee

        You should probably take action, which you’ve done, and go to plan B. If he gets back to you then, great. If not, at least you’ve covered your ass. Thirty shots is not so bad if you decide to keep all of it. It’s better than the almost 350 vfx shots we have to deal with :/