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Episode 29 – Pursuing Experience or Greatness?

Happy New Year!!!

This week Timothy and Alrik bring in the new year with a discussion about what path they want to take as filmmakers in 2016.

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Show Notes / Links

The Daily Struggle

  • Alrik’s Thoughts on the New Year and Sending out The Alternate.
    • Timothy asks about how Alrik is going about getting feedback.
    • The Blacklist and what it does and why it’s a good place to ‘host’ a script.
    • Script Shadow as another option for getting your script out there.
    • Script Shadow’s review of the Birdman script.
  • Star Wars Talk!
    • Timothy’s thoughts.
    • Alrik’s thoughts.
  • Timothy’s Thoughts on the New Year and his Crisis.
    • Timothy’s existential crises. What type of filmmaking goals does he want?
    • What kind of project does Timothy need to grow as a filmmaker?
    • If someone offered to let you direct a movie that was completely different than the movies you want to make or that you even like, would you take the opportunity?

Topic of the Week – Pursuing Experience or Greatness?

  • What kind of filmmakers will we be over the next year of our lives?
    • Path A – Strive to make one great piece of work over the course of a few years.
    • Path B – Make more things at a faster rate.
    • Alrik gives his answer.
    •  Timothy Dives deeper into what the two paths mean.
  • Do the one film a year directors like Woody Allan or Tikeshi Miike show real growth?
  • Is it worth pursuing a short film when you are developing a feature or will that just be a huge distraction?
  • Timothy talks about how he is struggling on choosing a path because of the question, ‘what idea is relevant and worth making?’
    • Struggling with landing on the right type of movie and how it can be hard when you are attracted to different type of ideas.
  • Timothy gives his full answer as to which path he wants to take.
    • Alrik connects Timothy’s answer to what he just experienced with Lone.
  • What kind of responsibility do we have as filmmakers or do we have the right to just make whatever movie we want?
    • Alrik explains what his definition is.
    •  Timothy explains his take.
  • Clammy lines, what they are and our responsibility to avoid them.
    • Scriptnotes definition and list of clams in episode 52. If you don’t want to listen to the podcast you can also just check out the transcript link on the same page.
  • Timothy’s Golden Rule of filmmaking or Prime Objective (should be the Prime Directive.)
    • Refining our definition, you can apply your responsibility as a filmmaker to all and any genre, any type of film can be relevant.
    •  Never saying ‘good enough’.
  • Do we even have a responsibility as filmmakers or can we just make whatever the heck we want and it doesn’t matter? What do you think? Let us know in the comments or send us an email!

Things to Share

Amy LaCour’s ‘Blood in Vein’… is not posted yet. Sorry for the delay but I’ll post it as soon as it’s ready. In the mean time, my favorite thing on the internet this week is….Barack Obama on Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. I couldn’t figure out how to embed this but just follow the link, it’s super rad.

Just in case you missed it, Timothy’s short film LONE is featured on the CGBros YouTube Channel! Now with over 35k hits, holy potato!

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  • Happy New Year! I really want to know what people think about the responsibility of being a filmmaker. Do we need to be thinking about what kinds of films we make and make sure that we live up to the legacy of filmmaking? Does it matter? Or should we just make whatever we want and let the audience either love it or hate it? What do you think? Shout it out!

  • Marc Madrigal

    Just finished the episode and wanted to add my thoughts. If filmmakers have any kind of deeper responsibility than doing their best to make a decent film, I think it is to inject their artistic voice into their work. Whether they are making schlocky B movies or indie darlings, there should be something personal in it that could only come from them. That could look a lot of different ways and be pretty subtle sometimes, but a film should reflect that specific humanity and personal experience of the filmmaker. (Kind of like how Ryan Coogler made Creed as a love letter to his sick dad.)

    • Ooo… I like that. Responsibility to bring one’s SELF into their films!

    • I think this is great advice, Marc. For the Sharknado filmmakers out there, this could simply mean your love for schlocky B-movies is the thing you inject into your film. Just like Tarantino’s love for for the 60’s and 70’s era of cinema is injected into every one of his films. Enthusiasm, I believe, is infectious, so find something you are passionate about and go full force with that.

  • Happy new year guys! I think our responsibilities as filmmakers differ! For example, I don’t write oscar-worthy dramas (or I haven’t yet at least) – I write comedies! Goofy ones for the most part! So I would say MY responsibility as a filmmaker is to make the audience laugh. Yours might be to make the audience cry or to scare the audience, or to bring awareness to a real life issue, or… the list goes on and on. That’s how I think of a filmmaker’s responsibility.
    And you guys are crazy. Star Wars was brilliant! New characters in familiar situations. Best way to bring it back and a great way to launch a series of new, different adventures for a new generation. I thought the balance of awesome new Star Wars and winks to the audience was near perfect and you can’t be too hard on it because the series has already been so tarnished by the prequels.
    As for making one great movie or a bunch of not so great movies? What about the possibility of making a bunch of great movies? Lol These days it’s all about content. Make more content! Someone’s always gonna ask “what else you got?” That said… if you have a script or concept that you believe you can execute perfectly and has the potential to be generally well-received, well then why wouldn’t you sink all your time into that one project?

    • You make is sound as if making great movies is easy. Give me some of your optimism. I need it.

      • “Greatness” is in the eye of the beholder… Everything we make is great to somebody, guaranteed. My shows Kellerman Hates Fruit and Lewis Hates Liquor are stupid as hell and reflect very little of my abilities as a filmmaker (worst of all its not a written comedy, we improvise) but every week a different person comments that it’s their favorite show on YouTube. We even got an email from someone saying that laughing with us every week helped ease their transition to America from a foreign country! I know you guys have gotten similar emails regarding your podcast even though you’re unsure (or use to be) of its validity! You make what you want to see and let others determine its “greatness” while you move on to the next thing 🙂

        • That’s a good point. I forget that greatness is not objective, even though sometimes it feels that way.

    • I like the idea of making a bunch of great movies but I think I’ve been realizing that to make something great, you have to commit to that one idea while your making it and if you spread yourself thin on multiple projects at once, they all suffer. That’s what I’m learning about myself anyways!

      • Oh yeah, I didn’t mean make a bunch of movies at the same time haha definitely focus on one at a time… but if you’re “waiting for vfx to come back” or something, that’s wasted time, start the next one!